officers, but as well as other journalists in the area, one telling cnn that they had heard from 10 to 20 shots and little explosions going on. then a witness also said shortly after what they had heard was people screaming, and as you were noting earlier, they came on the p.a. system and said everyone needed to get out. so, this witness saying 10 to 20 shots that they had heard, that he or she had heard after the movie had begun, or during that process of them moving into the movie theater. so, as they go through and meet and try to get information from all of these witnesses that are in the area and police officers, as they've moved in their units, you can see in the live pictures, that's what we'll see develop in the coming hours as the sun begins to rise not too long from here. so willie, that's the latest we're seeing right now, the information. they're saying, as we heard from the reports, they don't have a lot of information. they're trying to get the most they can as they move forward. their big concern, as you noted, was getting the injured to the hospitals, those area hospitals.